Follow-up questions and answers to How Karmic Debt is Used by Great Masters Such as Jesus
Q: Did Jesus Christ actually “absorb and cancel” the karmic debt of the world’s people and all sentient beings for all past present and future offenses?
No, he did not. For proof of that: take a look at the world! Is it karma-free? Has suffering ended? And deliberate evil? Of course not. If life is the best teacher, then I can only assume that these “Bible-believing” Christians have been skipping class for a lot of lifetimes.
What did Jesus do? “Behold, I have set before thee an open door” (Revelation 3:8). That is why in the Creed of our Sunday worship we say: “We strive towards the ancient narrow path that leads to life eternal.”
He opened (revealed) the way to ascend to God–not just get rid of bad karma. Unfortunately, Christianity has destroyed and distorted that way. But since Jesus learned it in India we can find it still there, for India is a far more reliable source for understanding Jesus’ teachings than the many warring churches can ever be.
That is why the masters of India sent Paramhansa Yogananda into the West to present authentic Christianity–which is really Sanatana Dharma, for Jesus was neither Jewish nor Christian in his religion but an authentic follower of Dharma. That is why he told the king Kashmir:
“O King, I hail from a land far away, where there is no truth, and evil knows no limits. I appeared in the country of the mlecchas as Isha Masiha [Jesus Messiah/Christ] and I suffered at their hands. For I said unto them, ‘Remove all mental and bodily impurities. Remember the Name of our Lord God. Meditate upon Him Whose abode is in the center of the sun.’ There in the land of mleccha darkness, I taught love, truth, and purity of heart. I asked human beings to serve the Lord. But I suffered at the hands of the wicked and the guilty. In truth, O King, all power rests with the Lord, Who is in the center of the sun. And the elements, and the cosmos, and the sun, and God Himself, are forever.”
This is pure Vedic Dharma. (See The Christ of India for the complete conversation of Jesus with the king of Kashmir after his resurrection and return to India.)
Thus, the puzzle for me is, I assume I still must do my part to resolve all my own karmic “pile”? This is puzzling for me and probably many others if Jesus Christ “took” it all.
But he did not “take” anything. That is why he said in Revelation 3:21: “To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.” We, too, have to overcome. This is the real teaching of Jesus.
Please define “He could have just consumed that karma…” in your blogpost.
Jesus could have just “worked off” or neutralized his karma, but he used it as a means to help others. However, he only helped them–he did not “save” them. Each one of us must do that for ourselves. And he showed the way.
This subject also leads to arguments with Christians who say: “Why do I need to reincarnate to pay off my sins via rebirth if Jesus Christ paid the price for me?”
How do you argue with falsehood? It is a lie: Jesus “paid” nothing for us. We ourselves must pay it all. Karma is clearly outlined by Saint Paul: “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap” (Galatians 6:7). If Jesus enabled us to not reap what we have sown, then he would be the greatest mocker of God along with us. Certainly the karma of negative action can be neutralized by the karma of positive action–but that is all in our hands. That is why Zacchaeus “said unto the Lord;… if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold” (Luke 19:8). That way he cancelled his karmic debts. Jesus did not do it for him.
Faith is not only worthless, it is destructive when it is placed in something that is not true. Sincerity counts for nothing when we are deluded.
I just cannot lay back like a slouch and ride on the Christian riff that all is paid and all I have to do is cruise right into Heaven.
Of course you cannot. You are a rational human being who knows better, because it does not work that way as these “believers” find out after death and in future lives.
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